Posts Tagged ‘kino’

7 Daygame tips from Love Systems

Monday, April 12th, 2010

Ok, I’ll admit that these are better than I’d have thought.  I’m commenting above and their tips are below.

That said, #1…eh.  True that you probably aren’t going for same day pulls.  Time frame wise, their is no set time frame. Sometimes day game # closes are 2 minutes. Sometimes you bounce them and are on a 2 hour instadate.  I’ve had several 7 hour daygame instadates.  It’s definitely easier to just # close and not instadate/bounce her or go for kiss closes, but feel it out…because all kinds of things are possible if you are flexible and you pay attention to their responses.  Also, sometimes you can get the # and then get them out again that night (Adept does that).

2. Not sure they are teaching this right. Yes, you can kino in daygame, and social touches sounds great, but I’m not sure that most guys know what that means. I like to show clients HOW you escalate kino in daygame, because you can escalate.  It’s also environment based….tone it down a LOT on metros (trains) and platforms.

3. They push direct too much.  I generally open with funny indirect and banter, so I open on an attraction trigger.  Direct is fine, but not as an “every approach” kind of thing, unless your outer game is really good.  a combination of types of openers is good too.

4.  Agreed, but you can come up with kino routines for daygame.  Try the Ring Routine (It’s on the internet, I’m sure.) And, practice social kino and some kino escalating.

5 . Hmmmmm.

6.  Smiling is important in day and night game.

7. True.

-Cuisine

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Love systems 7 tips:

Seven Day Game Tips You Can Use Right Now

    1. Usually people have stuff to do during the day – unlike at a bar, where she can spend hours with you. Good Day Game approaches usually lead to phone numbers + dates as opposed to going straight to the bedroom.

    2. Forget almost everything you know about touching (“kino”) and the Phyysical Progression Model. Being “touchy” and escalating is GREAT at a bar or club. During the day, in public, in bright light, it can seem creepy. Stop at “social touch” and save the rest for your date.

    3. Try “going direct.” She knows you’re hitting on her anyway – people don’t approach random strangers during the day unless they want something – so why not get the credit for having confidence?

    4. High-energy routines are often out of place during the day. They’re also unnecessary. At a cafe, you’re not competing with a million flashing lights, club music, and millions of other guys. So, tone everything down a few notches.

    5. Most of the time, you’re not going to have a wingman or alcohol in Day Game to help “push” you to approach. If you have “Approach Anxiety,” reward yourself for every time you approach without hesitating. This is how you build habits and “muscle memory.”

    6. Smile – it’s even more important in the daytime. At a club, the guy who doesn’t smile and approaches her is nervous. On a street corner, the guy who doesn’t smile and approaches makes HER nervous.

    7. Having good phone and text game is CRUCIAL if you want to be good at Day Game. Since even the best Day Game approaches often result in a phone number + date (since people have real time constraints during the day), you need to be good at converting phone numbers into dates.

Body Language – Answers

Wednesday, June 10th, 2009

PUMA of Sexandselling.com requested the answers to this (http://www.daygamer.net.?p=122) , so here goes:

Left corner man holding his drink like a shield (blocking his body) with both hands touching, guy to the right of him playing with his thumb, and the smaller girl (holding her hands together and having a fake looking smile and trying to take little space) have uncomfortable body language.  They all have “self touch.” 

The three people actively touching other people (spiky hair guy, larger girl with open body language, and the jewish looking guy who is touching two people all look very comfortable.  They are kinoing (touching) other people.  The larger girl seems to me attempting to make the smaller girl more comfortable.

The guy is the back that PUMA thinks is a vampire is actually Eastern European but not Travselvanian, so he is not a vampire.  :)

Kino in Daygame

Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009

People are social animals who connect through touch (kino).  The amount and kinds of touch vary per individual and environment.  The challenge with day game is knowing that train, music festival, street, library, bookstore, beach, park, cafe, shopping mall food court, supermarket, clothing store, etc…..approaches  may require different amounts of physical touch.   I do believe that you should kino both during day game and night game, and that if you are not, you should learn how.

Game is game and game requires kino.  Social people touch each other and being social (and having social inelligence) is attractive to women.  The people who looked most comfortable in the picture I posted regarding body language…were touching others.  The ones who were less comfortable either crawled up inside themselves ad shrank away or hid behind something (like a drink).

Social people even touch people of the same sex (in appropriate ways like (in men) fist bumps and shoulder taps and high fives)…its part of being social.  If you shrink away from another man tapping your shoulder or something (I’ve seen it happen)…you are inviting the AMOGing (alpha males dominating you) of your life. :)

In general…kino less in day game than night game unless its high energy day game like a music festival.  Kino even less if its somewhere where people are natural uncomfortable and low energy like a metro…and even less on the metro platform standing up.

I like to teach  how to kino in general – how and where to touch.   Some people like to teach kino gambits (I use the ring finger routine).  A combination is fine as well.

mini-isolation

Wednesday, May 6th, 2009

Was at a four floor Cinco De Mayo event (social game)  last night sponsored by a latin organization.  Was mostly latinas.  Later on (after the free food) it became dance club energy level environment.

At one point “The Real World Lothario” stopped me as I passed him (he was in a 2-set – a group of 2 girls)…and pointed me to his target with an opener about limes (she had a corona).  She was ok looking but I wasn’t attracted so I’d occupy her but she wouldn’t be a target.  her body was completely turned into her friend…and i needed to mini-isolate her; it was really loud (dance floor level) so I positioned my body away from her (to my right) and talked into her left ear (my right) again and again. I kept leaning back out after talking in her ear and when I came bck in, I kept talking further to the right (but still in to her ear).  By doing this, I slowly turned her (I was kinoing (touching) her too) until she had her back to her friend (and Lothario) and was also very into me.  Opening her body language opened her up a bit (as did the attention and game).  And now, he had his target all to himself without the obstacle interfering.

Earlier, Penny was there but she was in a shy mood so wasn’t doing a good job pivoting.  Shelly, Echo_Girl, and PUMA (I’ll mention her blog later) work better.