Posts Tagged ‘pivots’

Friend Support

Thursday, July 22nd, 2010

I recently had a client tell me that his female friends won’t help him with girls. They tell him they won’t help him FC. It’s all framing…your friends should like you and want you to succeed (at business, in your relationships, etc). Frame it as you looking for a girlfriend…and then if you talk to girls, they should be ok with it. And, they should never interfere with you talking to girls. That is why we don’t use ex g/fs or girls with crushes on us as pivots (girls who help us with other girls). If they are getting in your way, that relationship needs to be re-evaluated or the person needs to be talked to about it. Same thing if male friends are AMOG’ing you.

Also, you can help your pivots with guys – in the field or with friends.

I generally frame PU as a journey of self improvement, and noways…I frame myself as a coach (someone out to help people with this journey).

Some naturals will AMOG even if they are your friends. I have one who does it but he can’t stop me from pulling. If a friend is holding you back, don’t take him to places where you want to talk to girls. You want cool wingmen you vibe with, and you will then help each other with women.

“Just Friends” and Pivots

Wednesday, February 17th, 2010

I recently watched Just Friends (a movie about a super LJBF’d fat kid who blows out with his hot best friend and leaves town, loses weight, and gets good w/girls before returning) on DVD and while most of it sucked, it got me thinking a bit about the LJBF (Let’s Just Be Friends) thing.  One thing Ryan Reynold’s character got wrong even after losing the weight and being better with women is that you should kiss the girl at the end of the date.  You should kiss her sooner if possible, because there is more pressure at the end of the date.

I had a date a couple of months ago w/ a shy girl where I got up to go to the restroom and kissed her before walking away because it was getting too close to the end of the date and there really hadn’t been any other opportunities due to the location and situation.  So, I said I was going to the rest room, stopped, grabbed her hair, kissed her relatively quickly and went to the john.  It made it easier to kiss her again at the end of the date.  And, as skittish as she was (in general), she knew it was going to be just a quick kiss.  Not my normal MO, but I knew she needed the extra comfort, and it worked.

Back to the movie.  A large part of why he had a chance w Amy Smart‘s character was that he had lost weight, and a small part of it may have been the hottie he showed up with it, but a very large part chunk of his success was that after being super friend zoned, he cut ties, and then showed up years later.  It was like he was a new person (physically and otherwise) to a large extent.  It’s funny that one of the best way to get over “oneitis” (major crush that stops you form being successful with any women including the crush) is to make a “clean break” but that it also can give the person a chance to try again later…rather than keeping the LJBF relationship alive and waiting for a chance that just may not be possible when approached that way.  I’m not saying you have to wait ten years though. :)

People sometimes ask me how to LJBF a girl. It’s simple…treat her like a friend.  Talk about dates you are going on, offer to set her up with your friends, etc.   She may also make a good pivot (girl that help you with other girls).

Pivots are great, and people have been asking me how to recruit them.  You can certainly meet and LJBF new girls, but your current female friends should want to help you met women as well – they should want you to be happy.  Many of my female friends have made great (female) friends by pivoting for me.  It’s like a chain of “X helped me meet Y, and Y helped with Z.”