Update:

Register for the Adonis talk through:

http://dclair.eventbrite.com/

Also, DJ Fuji has been added as a speaker as well.

-Cuisine
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A couple of announcements.

1. We have had a private lair (Knack’s) for a couple of years, and many members were from the old DC Lair (including several of the coaches,  one of the original founders, the person who last ran the lair, and other members).  The DC Lair is now semi-private….meaning it is opening up to new members…a bit. 

BTW, I now own the domain www.dclair.com (I need to set it up).

Email me at Cuisine@daygamer.net for more info on DC Lair.

2. Adonis (AKA Nick Quick), an expert on Same Day Lays (and author of a book on the subject) will be speaking for our lair (and groups we open it up to) for free on Friday evening September 16th.  Location TBA but it will be in DC or Arlington. RSVP only (may be limited # of seats), at Cuisine@daygamer.net.

-Cuisine

Pros In The City hosts tons of social events, including speeddating, dating lectures, and mixers. Enter the code “lair” to save $5. I prefer the speeddating events at K Street Lounge.

-Cuisine

Style’s video about opening direct.

Well, yeah, it is about value. That’s why guys with very strong outer game (looks/clothes) do so well at direct – the women are basically already attracted to them…or can decide instantly.  That said, yes, direct is a tool, and if it works for you, use it.  I do not think everyone should go direct on every approach…it is not for everyone.  I teach my clients various openers, including direct and indirect.

Vince spoke in DC a couple of nights ago (w/his wife present) and I was surprised at how personable he is.  He DHVs everyone, and is funny, and friendly.

He spoke about taking anything she says that may not be what you want (I have a b/f,  I don’t give my # out) as being perfect – exactly what you needed to get her.  Nice way at looking at possible DLVs or rejection.

Here is one of his lines (and the handout it came from):

Her: I don’t give my #.

You: That leaves us one option then – psychic communication. (Grab and hold her hands, look at her and smile.) No, not that kind of though you pervert. (Spank her playfully).

Here is the handout (small card) he gave us at his free talk:

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This was on Venusian Arts’ Forum and have been in touch w/Afterbite, a Dutch PUA. I’ll comment in italics and bold throughout.

-Cuisine

Afterbite’s Direct Daygame Guide (short version)

Currently I am working on my own Direct Daygame Guide [full-version] and currently it is around 14 pages long, and soon I will probably add another 5-10 pages (as I have made loads of paper notes which I am going to work out). Since this is a public forum the below Direct Daygame Guide is just a very short version so it doesn’t reveal all my game.

What are my daygame experiences?
I have been doing daygame before I even knew that there was any theory existing about pickup ( which was just half a year ago for me). Theory about it have excessively improved my skills and results, cuz now I could learn from the experiences and knowledge of the pro’s who had books, audio programs, etc. But most of what I learned from daygame is still the result of a lot of trial-and-error (the hard way). Accept from this I am currently shifting my focus a bit more to nightgame as it is easier to get more physical during nightgame. And I also need to study from time to time as I am still a student.

*Easier, yes, but you still HAVE to kino during daygame.

My daygame guide:
From my own experience I believe that Direct Daygame consists of: 40% inner game + 20% body language + 30% social intelligence + 10% verbal

*That seems wrong.  Outer game in general is important in Direct Daygame, not just body language.  Looks and clothing make more of a difference in direct daygame than regular daygame.

Direct daygame is all about not wasting too much time when chasing girls during daytime. You will get a LOT more rejections than if you would the usual indirect daygame stuff you would learn from the oldskool methods of Mystery and Style or somewhere else on the internet. When I sometimes hear what girls hear from guys trying to pick them up during daytime I get sick with, cuz most guys are really pathetic when it comes to picking up women, especially during daytime.

*Direct Daygame will also blow out girls who you could have gotten if you had NOT went in direct, but you do better with the girls you would have gotten anyway. So, when it hooks, it often REALLY hooks.  Basically…women have small “yes, he is hot” large “maybe” and large “no” categories. Men have large “yes” and “no” but small “maybe.”  So, when you direct approach a  girl..you are forcing her to decide base don your outer game and initial approach whether you are a “yes.”  So, the girls who have you “maybe’d” blow out.  It’s powerful stuff because when it hooks, it can be intense, but as a guy who gets girls by game and not looks (I’m short, heavy, older, balding)…I tend to go direct less often. When I really DO HAVE to approach a girl..I’ll go direct and it always hooks, but I do it once or twice a year. It helps if you REALLY MEAN IT.

*Also…I generally open on an attraction trigger (humor) and open situational indirect (playful indirect base don the situation) and that works really well for me.

Direct daygame is all about you having the self-confidence and balls that you approached directly without being a creepy needy AFC. There is a difference with being direct and being honestly direct. If you are direct in showing your desires (wanting to wank her) you are acting like an AFC. If you are being the self-confident guy who knows how to please girls and respect women you state your intentions (wanting to get to know her better as a human being /person).

*Afterbite, are you opening large sets and mixed sets?  That shows balls too, even indirect.

3 Key success factors of daygame:
- INNER GAME (Have balls): show your self-confidence to girls; they love it
- APPROACH (Just do it): don’t start pondering about approaching the girls, just do it!
- TALK (Be Natural): don’t let your game depend on canned material.

*Agreed – just approach! Canned material is fine with me if its YOUR OWN canned material (such as stories and personal routines and banter lines) or if you are a newbie.

INNER GAME:

- Self confidence is most important thing during daygame
- Self-affirmations: “I am the SHIT!” Dus niet: “I am shit” maar “I am THE shit!”
- Link your personality, kind of words you use/ language, outfit, and verbal conversational topics to one complete personality
- Think of all Hollywood films! Never clubgame but always daygame romances. So social conditioning says that this a beautiful love story which they can their family and friends about. So what do I do with this info? I take advantage of social conditioning!

APPROACH:

- Directly zoom in with your eyes before you approached and do not break eye contact
- 100% eye contact
- Direct approach and opening
- Power of honesty: be honest and sincere sounding as if you never do this and this is just a strange magical event happening to the two of you.

Yes, direct should be very sincere.

TALK:

- Never talk about sex or sex related topics
- DO NOT NEG!!!: Please do not NEG too much, especially with girls who have probably not experienced too much of this. I have lost lots of HB8-9s just because I became too cocky (& not funny for them) and by negging (in text, MSN or conversation).
- Words are not important or what you say…It is most important HOW you say it!

- Use your social intelligence and intellectual knowledge every time after she has told something about herself

*If negging is not working, you are doing in wrong.  A neg is a disqualifier, not an insult.  I use tease negs and banter and it works fine. The girl has to KNOW you are kidding when you call her a trouble maker or accuse her of trying to get you lost.   YOUR words are important (women get subtlety) as is how you say them…as is how you handle what they say.   You need to explain this better although I get it “- Use your social intelligence and intellectual knowledge every time after she has told something about herself.”

You can get them to visualize sex, making out with you, being with you in the future, etc.  It’s all in how you do it.   Subcommunication is your friend.  Also, longer sets give you time to build sexual tension and get more sexuality across.

How a typical Direct Daygame Approach looks like
1. Direct approach with lots of eye-contact, zoom in, make her stop and start opener
2. Comfort building
3. Qualification
4. Close

*Replace the Word “how” with the word “what.”

Though I have more a lot more of my own daygame guide, routines, pickup lines, etc, It’s best you guys to push yourself really hard to develop your own stuff… If I can achieve this level in just a few months, you can do this as well.

*Afterbite, how long are your sets generally?  Do you bounce girls?  Do you set up dates with them on the original sarge?  What types of venues are you doing?

*If that’s all you’re giving us, that’s all I can help you with. Thanks Afterbite. -Cuisine

I was in the car w/Pras after daygaming last weekend at the mall and he played Vince Kelvin’s free daygame CD.  What I heard (cold reading/banter) was good (although I would alter a lot of it before I used it). BUT it was more general game than daygame specific.  I looked up how to get the free CD:

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“We’ll, first to thank those who took the time to read this inteview, we’ll send our full value FREE Day Game Drills CD when you email us at: Vince@SeductionCoaching.com, and tell us where to send it!
We also have a FREE global PUA conference call every Monday at 7 PST, and by the way, we’d love to have you on it and do a special on Attractology and your group!
And then simply go to both of our sites…
FOR EVENTS AND PROGRAMS: www.SeductionCoaching.com
FOR LOADS OF FREE DOWNLOADS, with me and top MPUA guests such as Sinn, Speer, Mehov, David Wygant, Doc Holiday, Johnny Soporno, Decker from AMP, etc. go to www.VinceKelvinsPodcast.com
I also founded and co-host the Annual PUA World Summit with Johnny Wolf (TheSocialSecrets.com), for that go to www.PUASummit.com, and thank you guys for the opportunity to be of service, I hope you’ve found great value in this interview…”

I ran into Jon Wye at Eastern Market last weekend while I was working with a client.  Jon designs and makes his own belts, including his new line of Pirate Chef wear (includes an apron).  He has polka dot belts,  the home maker belt, a belt with flames, a kung fu belt, a belt with bananas and monkeys, etc.  He also has interesting buckles like the waffle, junk (points down), coffee cup, cherry pie, rooster (cock), etc.   I own the “fighting cock” belt, which is the rooster buckle on the kung fu belt; now…that is peacocking!

He will be in Chicago and at Adams Morgan this weekend.  I assume he will be at one festival, and his partner will be at another.

They are talking about making scratch and sniff belts…and the pirate chef belt has a turkey on it.  If they do scratch and sniff belts that smell like turkey…no girl will think it is an accident that a guy smells that way.   Jon – try vanilla, cinnamon, chocolate, etc.

A bunch of us watched an Infield Insider featuring “James” (a Mehow Instructor) last night.  He did a supermarket approach and was quite good.  

I find it interesting that Mehow said that daygame sets are compressed/quicker, when that isn’t always the case.  Sometimes they are 2 minutes (I need to run, whats your number?), and sometimes you can have a 4 hour bouncing instadate (like I had a few weeks ago).  

Also, I don’t kino a ton during daygame but I kino a lot more than James did.  A Venusian Arts Coach once said to students during a Daygame lecture that they should not kino during daygame at all, and I’m against that.  Daygame is game, and includes kino. Less Kino?  Depending on environment, yes.  During metro game, a lot less kino may be in order.

Two of our readers commented regarding the CD definition I posted. Puma asked about CD in game, and Adonis responded (under his Charming Rogue account on twitter) saying that he would followup with more info.  here it is (thanks):

Adonis – Cognitive Dissonance

To truly understand the process of seduction, a working understanding of the theory of Cognitive Dissonance is necessary. Cognitive Dissonance is caused when a person holds two or more conflicting or contradictory beliefs about the self. When this is experienced, it causes a person so much discomfort that they will typically rationalize one belief away. For example, a woman you have approached and attracted suddenly finds herself wanting to go to bed with you, but this conflicts with her idea of being a good girl or at least not a slut.

(Note: The term “slut” is a construct created by women to use as a weapon to lower other women’s social value. I have no misogynistic intentions in using this word. As previously stated, I believe women should be free to engage in any sexual acts she so desires without judgment.)

She then rationalizes that going home with you was “meant to be” or “fate” and therefore it is permissible for her to act on her impulses. Her cognitive dissonance has been removed.

Cognitive Dissonance is also why proper escalation is so effective. If she is complying with each of your escalations she will often possess two conflicting beliefs:

1) Things are rapidly getting more and more physical and intimate; and
2) Only an “easy” or “slutty” girl would allow rapid escalations to happen with someone they don’t really like. In order to abet her cognitive dissonance, she will rationalize to herself that she must really like you because she is definitely not easy or a slut.

Cognitive Dissonance is an important component of Sexual Framing. I will be covering the tools I actually use to Frame a Women Sexually in an upcoming article.

 Roissy responded with his take on My Body Language Test on his blog.  As always, Roissy’s post was entertaining.