Archive for June, 2011

How to Get Make Outs (From Cliff’s List)

Wednesday, June 29th, 2011

The body language aspects of this article are good.  They apply to more than just make outs.




Cliff’s List is hosting a series of seduction, pickup and dating
tips from various well-known gurus in the seduction community for
Askmen, the largest men’s website. Here are two from Zan Perrion on
how to talk to a girl ( and
natural game (, and one from
Haley Quinn on commitment signs
( There are more to come, so stay
tuned !

Joshua Pellicer:

If you’ve ever seen a guy in a bar walk up to a girl he didn’t know
and make out with her almost immediately, it can be a completely
mind-blowing experience. It may seem like it’s magical or out of
reach … a special ability or super-power that someone is born

But it’s not. And it can be broken down into a few simple steps you
can follow in order to make the same thing happen for you. In this
article, I’m going to break down those steps.

The first step is to realize that about 90% of the difference
between someone who’s really good with women and someone who’s not
so good or mediocre is the ability to spot a woman who’s ready to
make out.

I know it sounds kind of crazy at first, but it’s true. If you walk
into a bar and go up to any woman without knowing what signs to
look for, your odds of success go WAY down. You must know how to
spot that woman who’s already in this “make-out ready” state, so
you can walk up and be “that guy.”

Don’t buy into the myth that women don’t want this to happen. Women
are as sexual (if not more so) than guys are. Most of the time,
this “turbo” make-out session never happens because so many guys
are afraid to go for it. And when this doesn’t happen, the girls
end up going home alone, or worse … staying and being kind of
mean to a lot of guys in the bar / being resentful and angry
because no one’s approaching them.

When putting this technique into practice, you want to discover how
to see the women whom you’re able to make out with in 40 seconds or
less in the first place.

There are a few excellent indicators that will (especially in a bar
atmosphere) tell you if a woman is game, or ready for an instant
make-out session.

What To Look For

The first indicator is a woman looking down often. When a woman
looks down often, she is accessing her emotions. Let me explain …
when we look in different directions, we access different parts of
our brain. These are called “Eye Accessing Cues.” When a woman is
in a bar sitting and looking down, she’s accessing her emotional

If she makes eye contact with you, looks down then back up again,
she’s saying: “I have an emotional response to you looking at me
and I’m looking down.” And if she tilts her head down as well (and
doesn’t just use her eyes to look down), she’s physically dropping
herself a little bit lower and showing submission. This gives you
the ability to walk up and be the dominant man.

Now, if she looks at you, smiles, and doesn’t look away, this could
be a much more difficult situation. Socially, she’s meeting you
head on, and not showing immediate submission. Women whom you’re
going to be able to walk up to and make out with in 40 seconds or
less should automatically take the submissive role as a woman.
That’s one quality which shows you’ll be able to quickly make out
with her.

Another quality is that she’s actively looking around to make eye
contact. This is crucial. A woman who is engaged with someone
specifically and is not looking away is not going to be as easy to
seduce in 40 seconds or less. It’s going to take much longer.
Again, you’re going to have to play a totally different kind of
game when you walk up. You can’t just walk up and make out with her.

So instead, if you see a woman who is in a conversation but she’s
constantly looking around and trying to make eye contact with a lot
of people, this is a very, very likely opportunity for you, and
that’s probably a woman you can walk up to and immediately become
sexual with.

Other traits are revealed in the way they’re moving and how they’re
dressed. Let’s say she’s standing with her feet about
shoulder-width apart. It’s less likely that a woman standing like
this is going to be available for you to walk up and dominate.
That’s because she’s standing in a dominant position with stronger
body language, and she’ll probably be a lot more resistant.

Instead, you want to find a woman who takes up less space. She has
her legs closer together and seems to be outside of a group,
looking around a little bit.

Another thing is the way she’s dressed. If she’s dressed in a way
that’s super flashy and attracting lots of attention, she probably
isn’t the kind of girl you can walk up to and make out with in 40
seconds. This kind of women is looking for attention – not for
someone to dominate them. What you want is someone who’s in between
“I don’t care”  and “Stare at my tits, bitch !” Somewhere between
wearing sweatpants with an elastic waistband to the bar and being
done up really, really beautiful and sexy with a really low-cut
shirt. You want to find someone who’s in between those two extremes.

A lot of women who are on vacation fall into this realm. They don’t
want to over dress or under dress, and don’t know how the bar
atmosphere is going to be. They’ll usually come in open-minded, and
start looking around trying to make connections. This is an
excellent situation for you (and her, of course).

That’s what to look for and how you spot her in the first place. If
you see some of those, you want to watch her for a second. If you
think that she is the kind of person you can walk up to and do
this, then proceed. If not, I’d actually suggest you proceed
anyway, just to see what happens.
Next, right after you get that done and you’ve seen your girl
(there are probably three or four of these girls in a bar at any
given moment) you’re going to walk up and start the scary part.

What To Do

This is where the most powerful kind of frame control comes in.
It’s very, very important that you understand how to control
someone else’s frame if you want to come across like you’re a pro
at this. By “frame,” I basically mean their “reality.” You’re
controlling what they experience. You have to be able to stay in
control of that experience in order to really bring her to the
level where she feels comfortable making out with you immediately.

I’m going to give you a very quick, punchy, fast way of doing this.
I’ll explain as quickly as possible; that way you can go straight
out and try it …

Here’s what I would say, word-for-word. Walk up to a girl. When you
get up to her and right when she makes eye contact with you, I want
you to SLOWLY put your finger up by your lips and say this: “Shhh …”

Then slow your speech pattern down and deepen your vocal tonality.
And immediately say, “Wait just one moment.”

You can also say, “Stop for one minute.” I suggest using a bit of
NLP here. Whenever someone hears “stop,” “wait,” or “don’t,” they
immediately register whatever comes after that. So if I say, “Don’t
think of a black cat,” what do you do ? Immediately, you think of a
black cat, and whatever version of one you have in your head.

So if I said, “Don’t try to make out with me,” or “Don’t make out
with me right now,” girls are going to be consciously hearing,
“Don’t make out with me,” but their subconscious minds will be
hearing, “Make out with me right now !”

You’re attempting to sort of use real-life Inception to get
making-out with you to be HER idea. She should be thinking, “I
should make out with this guy.”

Now, during frame control you’ll be using a lot of these
subconscious triggers in order to get this to go as fast as
possible. PLEASE ONLY USE THIS FOR GOOD. There are lots of evil
ways to use this.
Don’t try to seduce women who don’t want to be seduced. Again,
that’s one of the reasons why it’s important that you notice a
woman who really does want to be seduced by a man.

So to recap so far: you walk up, you put your finger over your lips
and you tell her to “Shhh” for a second, and then you say a
sentence that starts with “don’t” or “wait” or “stop.”

My typical statement is, “Don’t worry … right now.” That’s all I
say. And I slow that speech down – “Don’t … worry … right now.”

Then I go right into the next statement, which is: “You and I are
going to have a secret. We’re going to secretly kiss and no one
will know.”

And as I’m saying this, I’m leaning in … and you’ll be doing the
same when you do it. You’re leaning in ever … so … slowly. At
the same time, you’re looking from her eyes down to her lips and
back up to her eyes again. This is called “Triangulating.” Count to
three looking at her eyes, then look down to her lips and count to
two, look back up and count to three, look down and count to two
… etc. Do that about three or four times as you’re talking.

This can be a lot to remember, so you may want to practice it a
little bit. I wouldn’t expect you’re going to get it perfect the
first time.

So again, you say, “We’re going to have a secret. We’re going to
kiss and no one is going to know.” From here on out, you’re really
just filling up space with words as you’re leaning in so you’re
still controlling the interaction.

So you’re going to very, very slowly, take your right or left hand
– whichever one is more accessible – and reach around her back. You
won’t pull her in toward you or anything yet, just touch her very

Signs That It’s Working

Is she looking at your lips ?

If she’s looking at your lips, you have a green light to go
forward. If she’s looking at your eyes, you may want to wait a
second, or turn around and turn back again and try it again. This
resets the meter in her mind, so to speak. When you turn around and
turn back again, most people consider this to be a fresh start in a
conversation. It’s a strange loop-hole in psychology.

For some reason, that’s how we are as humans. When someone turns
away and then turns back, we give them another chance at moving
forward. So if you’re getting some resistance, turn around, turn
back, smile, and continue. If she gives you resistance again, you
probably should back off and find another woman.

If she’s looking at your lips and seems to be very comfortable and
excited, then proceed. You’ll move in very closely and speak almost
directly into her ear.


In a loud environment like a bar, you’ll want to speak louder, but
don’t raise your voice. Make your voice very low so that you have
to be very, very close to her ear for her to hear.

Then you’re going to keep talking … what I usually say is, “No
one is going to see this. It’s just going to be our little secret.
I promise I won’t tell anybody, only if you promise that you won’t
tell anybody either.”

As I’m saying this into her ear, I make sure that she’s feeling my
breath on her neck. So I’m sort of breathing out a little bit more
than normal as I’m speaking so she can feel that hot air on her

This usually gets a very visceral, deep, sexual response from women
when you do this.

As you’re speaking really close to her ear, you’ll very slowly
press your cheek against hers as you’re talking. Then you’ll move
you head over so that your mouth is closer to hers, and then …
you’ll start kissing her.

And if you do this right, you start out with just one soft peck …
then go straight into making out. It may not seem like it in this
description, but 40 seconds is a long time. This process can happen
in a lot less than 40 seconds – I’ve done it in less time, and I’ve
seen other guys do it, too.

Practice It

What I want you to do is practice this approach. Maybe go for a
minute or two at first, and then get to where you can do this in
about 40 (or even 30) seconds.

You won’t use this tactic all the time. But when the opportunity is
right, it’s really good to have this in your seduction arsenal. You
want to make sure that you have the right kind of tools for the
job, so to speak. Whenever you see a girl who’s in that state and
ready to be seduced, if you beat around the bush, engage in small
talk or generally waste time, she’ll be turned off and you’ve lost
a golden seduction opportunity.

Instead, when you spot this, you want to be able to see her, know
that that’s what she wants, go  in, and give it to her immediately.
This is the major difference between guys who are rock stars at
walking up and seducing a woman … and guys who wish that they
were great at quickly seducing a woman.

There are a lot of other success factors as well. There are
techniques on how to speak with the right tonality … how to touch
her in a way that allows her to feel comfortable and doesn’t turn
off any of her weird alert switches … specific NLP triggers that
you can use to connect and make sure she’s totally in your zone.

What’s taken me from a normal dude to a well-respected dating coach
is knowing a lot of short-cuts like this and knowing when to bring
them out. And these short-cuts can also improve your game with

Remember these characteristics in women who want to be seduced, and
remember – it is possible to make out with a woman in 40 seconds or



Dress Style: Congruence

Tuesday, June 21st, 2011


Over the years (that I’ve been in game) I have improved my dress style and developed my own personal style. I am complimented often on my hat (because a good hat screams that you have style) and pendants.  What I’ve found interesting is that people look at your outer game for in-congruence and tell you if they find it.   Examples:

In Philly, a Rockabilly musician with a good dress style complimented my hat and pendant (and overall style) but mentioned that I need to get out of the sneakers. Made sense since I was only wearing the sneakers because I was traveling and only had that one pair of shoes on me (I stopped at the gym on the way). Not bringing a pair of nicer shoes as well was laziness on my part.

I dressed down one day and walked through at farmers market (that I visit weekly) in a polo shirt and old shorts and two people mentioned that I was dressed down.  I did have the pendant.


Women ask where my I bought the pendants to see if they are off the shelf or purchased from an artist or crafter. With the way I dress, they figure the pendant isn’t from Macy’s.


How To Be Mediocre With Women!

Thursday, June 16th, 2011

Nick Rogue (formerly known as Adonis), the specialist in getting women home the same night you meet them had a free talk for us in DC a while back.  Now, he is offering a free book (“how to be instantly mediocre with women”) and video series.  By mediocre, he means that mediocre is all you need to get laid like a rock star. This guy is the real deal.