Hoops/Shit Tests/Frame Control

I was recently asked by a Daygamer.com sbscriber how to handle it when girls try to get you to jump through hoops or be a dancing monkey.  Easy answer is hold on to your frame and don’t comply; stay in control, and steal their frame if you can.

Here is an example from earlier in the summer.  I was working with a daygame client (F) and we were sitting in a cafe.  I opened a middle eastern girl (HB8) and bantered her a while until she went to get a drink, and she sat on the other side of the safe in a couch.  I was helping F with his material, so we didn’t reposition to talk to her again even though she came to us and told me where she was sitting.  

We left to do some daygame and in a couple of hours we went back to the cafe for cold drinks and she was there on the other side reading, so I reopened the set.  I reopened and it went fine.  At some point she pushed a pen and paper towards e and told me to write something (a restaurant recommendation?) down (even though it was easy enough for her to do it).  I told her to do it…and we went back and forth but neither of us wrote it down – I didn’t comply and (jump through her hoop) she wouldn’t write it down either.  She was testing me.  Shit tests are good because it means the girl wants to see if you are real. 

So, talked a bit more and momement of truth…i went for the #.  I figured she might shit test me or make me work for the #.  She only tried for a second. I started going for the # and she said to write mine down, and I said “no…I’ll call you so you have mine too, what is your #?”  She complied without a problem. 

One thing that was great was that the client was there and able to watch and hear the whole set. 🙂

Oh, and after working on attraction (his weakness) all day, the client got a makeout at an event I brought him to.


More recent examples of controlling the set in daygame;  this was Eastern Market: 

A bee was pestering two girls we (a client and I) were talking to.  I told them to remain calm (controlled the frame), and then we put an empty lemoade cup 10 feet from us and the bee landed there and left us alone. A guy came in to kill it and I told him not to mess with her pet bee.  he had attempted to enter our set…and i stopped him.  The bee was no longer bothering anyone…why kill it? He wanted to play the hero to 2 girls who were already talking to 2 guys.

We were talking to 2 girls at a shop and the store owner tried to interfere by asking if I wanted to buy the necklace.  I told him i’d get back to him…without focusing on him and then drew the girl into banter about the necklace.  The message:  The girls are fine talking to us, and I’ll let you know when I need your help with merchandise.

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