Archive for July, 2009

Infield Insider with “James”

Thursday, July 23rd, 2009

A bunch of us watched an Infield Insider featuring “James” (a Mehow Instructor) last night.  He did a supermarket approach and was quite good.  

I find it interesting that Mehow said that daygame sets are compressed/quicker, when that isn’t always the case.  Sometimes they are 2 minutes (I need to run, whats your number?), and sometimes you can have a 4 hour bouncing instadate (like I had a few weeks ago).  

Also, I don’t kino a ton during daygame but I kino a lot more than James did.  A Venusian Arts Coach once said to students during a Daygame lecture that they should not kino during daygame at all, and I’m against that.  Daygame is game, and includes kino. Less Kino?  Depending on environment, yes.  During metro game, a lot less kino may be in order.

Number Closing Hired Guns

Wednesday, July 22nd, 2009

I got a phone number from a waitress last night, and she slipped me her # written on receipt paper.  This came up last weekend as well when I got the number from one of the demonstration girls for a product at a mall, and she said she couldn’t give me her # because her boss was around, but could I stop by tomorrow?  No. Instead, I told her to write it down on a flier and give it to me, which she did.

So, often hired guns can’t just type their # into your phone but need to be more discreet (so that people don’t see her giving her # out at work), and hand you their #.

As far as the waitress, I was going to let it slide and not go for a number this time…but she shot a obvious IOI at me, and Smooth Virus and I then knew she was interested.  In response to a banter line: “You’re so silly” with her reaching over to whack my hand.   She had already been kino’ing me here and there.


# Close = Get the phone number.

Hired Gun = an employee, especially ones traditionally hired for their looks (waitresses, bartenders, strippers, Hostesses, Greeters, Israeli Dead Sea Product Saleswomen).

Cognitive Dissonance response from Adonis

Sunday, July 12th, 2009

Two of our readers commented regarding the CD definition I posted. Puma asked about CD in game, and Adonis responded (under his Charming Rogue account on twitter) saying that he would followup with more info.  here it is (thanks):

Adonis – Cognitive Dissonance

July 11, 2009 by Adonis

AdonisTo truly understand the process of seduction, a working understanding of the theory of Cognitive Dissonance is necessary. Cognitive Dissonance is caused when a person holds two or more conflicting or contradictory beliefs about the self. When this is experienced, it causes a person so much discomfort that they will typically rationalize one belief away. For example, a woman you have approached and attracted suddenly finds herself wanting to go to bed with you, but this conflicts with her idea of being a good girl or at least not a slut.

(Note: The term “slut” is a construct created by women to use as a weapon to lower other women’s social value. I have no misogynistic intentions in using this word. As previously stated, I believe women should be free to engage in any sexual acts she so desires without judgment.)

She then rationalizes that going home with you was “meant to be” or “fate” and therefore it is permissible for her to act on her impulses. Her cognitive dissonance has been removed.

Cognitive Dissonance is also why proper escalation is so effective. If she is complying with each of your escalations she will often possess two conflicting beliefs:

1) Things are rapidly getting more and more physical and intimate; and
2) Only an “easy” or “slutty” girl would allow rapid escalations to happen with someone they don’t really like. In order to abet her cognitive dissonance, she will rationalize to herself that she must really like you because she is definitely not easy or a slut.

Cognitive Dissonance is an important component of Sexual Framing. I will be covering the tools I actually use to Frame a Women Sexually in an upcoming article.

IOIs 101, Part 1

Monday, July 6th, 2009

I’ve had a lot of experience with miscalibrated girls, where they are not actually putting out the correct signals (IOIs) for their level of interest.  Examples:

1.  Women who were physically all over you – because they were comfortable w/you or just want to flirt, but they have no intention of following through.  Often, they are comfortable doing this BECAUSE they don’t plan on following through.  I had a married woman play this game with me a few months ago. Uh uh. 

2.  Women who are interested but gave less signals because they are shy. Men think these women aren’t interested in them when they actually were.  Big problem for the women…since they screen out appropriate men…leaving less appropriate ones (who don’t care if she is interested).  This is sometimes cultural.

3.  Women who everyone thinks are interested but they just give everyone those signals.

The trick here is ascertaining what someone’s “norm” is.  If someone is flipping her hair at you like crazy but that is what she does all day…it is not directed at you specifically and doesn’t count as an IOI.

Lets focus on #3.  I met a (daygame) hired gun this weekend who gave EVERYONE (men and women) lots of IOIs.  She was afterall trying to sell her products, so she actually meant to put a lot of interest out there.  But…I was getting tons of IOIs…so I had to look for differences in the IOIs she gave me (vs others) in order to guage her interest in me.  Plus, I wasn’t actually a possible customer (she wasn’t trying to sell me anything, even as a gift).  And she did try to use me for social proof several times, which through me off a bit as far as guaging interest.

 A few IOI Examples (towards me): 

1.  She asked what we (she hadnt talked to my friends) were doing that night and tried to get us to where she was going. 

2.  She displayed knowledge of my culture (she used Yiddish words), pointing out that she dated a jew and that his mom loved her. 

3.  She had me sit next to her in her area (mini isolation). 

4.  She repeatedly told me how funny I am. (Humor is an attraction trigger.)

5.  She told me to come back and see her.  Etc, etc, etc. 

Yup, she was interested.    She jumped at the # close.

This is not what she was doing (there were no IODs)…but…for a fun time, go to a mall and watch the Israeli hired guns selling Dead Sea products.  They are using “push pull” the whole time, giving you positive (flirtatious) signals while also giving negative body position (IOD) signals.  There is a video out there of Sean Messenger gaming one…and even while she gives him IOIs, she puts a clipboard or a chair between them (a “closed” signal).

Roissy’s “Spot The Alpha”

Wednesday, July 1st, 2009

 Roissy responded with his take on My Body Language Test on his blog.  As always, Roissy’s post was entertaining. 🙂